After seeing your youtube video I have narrowed it down to the following skis: Salomon QST 99, Atomic Bent Chetler 100, Nordica Enforcer 100 or Fischer Ranger 102 FR. It's light enough so that you can handle the longer ski, I'd think. Sounds to me like you're leaning to QST! I like the extra stability on groomers, and with 102mm waist widths, the extra length allows me to use these skis in light powder on those rare East Coast days. I think you're on the right track here and I do think the Tracer 98 could potentially work for you. The name indicates as much, with the ability to Blend the park and the mountain into one gigantic playground. This gives the Rustler 10 more of a soft-snow focus, although it can still hold an edge on firm snow too thanks to that metal and the resulting torsional stiffness underfoot. 3D Radius Sidecut applies to this 102, and allows for a great variety of turn shapes and styles, even with a ski that has dual-metal laminate. I'd get on the Origin 106 too if you can, you might be surprised by that ski. The QST 99s I have is 174cm.I am just wondering if there's something in between the Mantra and the QST. This year I am looking to buy a new pair of skis and have been looking at the Sky 7, Rustler 10, QST 99, Ranger 98 and Enforcer 100. Hi John! What would be the pros and cons of each, relative to each other and maybe more importantly relative to the Enforcer 100 (which I still will ski)? I was leaning towards the Rustler 10 but the QST sounds good too. Who it's For: Salomon added basalt and doubled the amount of carbon and flax in the QST 99 for 2019. If youre truly an expert skier, you probably know it. That said, it sounds like you might like that in a ski. Hope that helps! Have you seen that too? Like the Bonafide, it uses tip and tail rocker and some early taper, but both are quite subtle. Curated Ski Experts Daryl Morrison and Hayden Wright tested the 2023 Atomic Bent Chetler 100 at Powder Mountain in Utah this spring. I'm trying to decide what ski to get next and was hoping to get some guidance from you guys. SE, Hi Todd! What would your recommend? And I like to jump around on small side bumps and then going in to some lazy turns in the piste. I just demoed the Mantra M5 184cm at Park City. Please let me know if you have any advice between the two or recommend another ski. I have seen them not release to the correct newton meter values during torque testing, but only for really lightweight skiers. That ski essentially blends the performance of the Sky 7 and the Bonafide that you demoed. Very smooth, strong, and stable, so if that's what you're into, I'm not going to steer you away, especially since I'm a huge fan of the ski as well. The rule of thumb for skate poles is that they should come between your lip and your nose. For example, East Coast skiers may have visions of skiing wide open powder fields, but the reality is that 9/10 theyll have to navigate tight trees before finding their 100 yard straight shot of glory. In terms of versatility, the QST 99 can be described as a ski with a very even mix of performance characteristics for different terrain and snow conditions. Powder is likely the most common reason to adjust your ski size, but other specialties such as ski racing, park skiing, and moguls can all skew what size is proper for you. It wasnt too long ago, after all, that a 102 mm underfoot ski would be considered an absolute boat, but now, the construction and shaping techniques are so good that 102s act like much narrower skisin a good way. So there might be some powder, some crud, or the moguls might get skied out to become fairly icy; there's only so much soft stuff one gets to see inbounds during a holiday week. Thanks much. I suppose I'm also a bit confused because with much of my skiing being on moguls (of the sort that develop as a steep slope is left alone, not regularly shaped competitive ones), specialized mogul skis would be close to slalom skis, whereas skis for variable surface conditions get quite a bit wider--so what does one best use on moguls with variable surface conditions? It uses a lot of rocker, and relatively pronounced early taper too. Love it but on slushy days or out west I feel as if a little extra girth might come in handy. It sums up the differences very well. Thanks, Jun Lee! Check the charts below to see which size you need. The primary purpose for these skis will be to perform in powder. I guess the sick days would be more directional but I wanted to hear other peoples opinions, I own both. Does the metal in the kastle or blizzard's make those a more appropriate choice? SE, Brilliant, thanks for your reply. All of these skis are very versatile and have high-performance ceilings while remaining accessible. Hi Christophe! Last year I demo'd the Sky 7, which I really liked in the powder we got in Montana. I think unfortunately I have a pretty big list of skies that I am trying to narrow down and so am looking for a recommendation. Thanks, HI Phil! At 100 mm underfoot, this is the widest Maverick, containing a poplar wood core and two sheets of titanal. This is the number that our ski techs will use to mount your bindings. Around the 100mm mark. The boot sole length is the literal length from toe to heel of that boot, measured in millimeters. This new construction delivers high-end vibration damping and stability, but allows the ski to flex more naturally right underfoot. It's entirely possible and very common for boots with the same Mondo Point to have different Boot Sole Lengths. After being a Snowboarder the last 20 years this year I will "have to" get back to skis to teach my kids skiing. While carbon doesnt quite have the same type of flex pattern or energy damping properties as titanal, it does have a bunch of energy built in, allowing it to be a great material that does a bulk of the heavy lifting. Armada Tracer 98 Have fun! Thank you for the comment! The Enforcer will be a bit better on-piste and the Ranger will be a bit better in soft/fresh snow. SE, Have fun! The Mantra M5, Rossignol Experience 94, Salomon QST 92 or the Blizzard Rustler 9 should be at the top of your list. Thanks My brother has the benchetler 100s and loves them, Im currently leaning towards the qst 98s. Kore 99 probably isn't the way to go, because that ski is actually very stiff. Softest ski on the wall, and by a pretty good margin, the Line Blend is a tricksters paradise. They're a bit more user-friendly than the Mantra, but a bit better on-trail than the QST. Be prepared for burly and strong performance overall. Seeking 2 ski suggestions. Don't hesitate to give us a call at (877) 812-6710 and let us help you. If you know youre not an Intermediate skier still, but arent quite confident enough to call yourself an expert, then chances are this is you. 2020 Atomic Bent Chetler 100 Used Demo Skis w Bindings 164cm Sale: $599.99 39% Off $985.00. It has some obvious freeski-influence in its design, loves natural features. It's going to hold an edge really well on firm snow, and it will respond to skier input really quickly. The sick days (104)float much better than the bc (100). For length, I would think the 174 cm would perform well for you. The Atomic Backland Bent Chetler was one of the most sought-after skis in this lineup. Versus the Ranger 99, it's certainly got more of a carving/on-trail persona, but isn't quite the floater or crud-buster that the Fischer certainly is. Although it feels different than the M5, it's not exactly more playful, forgiving, etc. Hope that helps! Atomic builds the energy into the ski through the positive camber underfoot, and the light weight wood core takes care of the rest. A ski for the people! Overall, the QST is a fantastic ski that will do it all. I still ski on a 1998 Salomon Super Force 92S in a 203 from time to time, so I'm right there with you. All use some metal, but are also way more playful than the Mantra in soft snow. I'm looking for a 1-ski quiver. Thanks for the response! Mostly stick to the groomers, no moguls or trees really and love charging hard with a race background, but when it dumps, especially out west I want a ski that wont punish me in the soft stuff and crud. Wanting something easier to maneuver and have fun with. Im a 47 year old male, 5,11 and 170 pounds. 180cm Sale: $549.99 29% Off $769.94. SE. I have demoed the Enforcer 100s our west and really liked them a lot! It's a blast in powder, trees, and other off-piste scenarios and its lightweight feel and relatively soft flex pattern offers an important choice in this category. 1 Ok_Promotion_7074 1 min. Each of these skis offers their own unique set of attributes, performance characteristics, and overall feel. They're great in trees and bumps, but the Camox might be more well-rounded and with a higher-performance ceiling. SE, Hi Scott! I don't want some chattery noodles when going fast but I also don't want lifeless sticks that will leave something to be desired for off-piste runs. Especially in soft snow and powder. On many windy East coast ski days, I'll ski both conditions in the same day and same run (firm & wind blown trails, but soft bumpy trees). SE. I skied the 193 for a couple of years and liked it more in soft snow, but that's about where my preference ended. Almost all of my resort skiing is woods or bumps, a playful/surfy ski style, but I enjoy laying into a turn too. As one of the more front-side and carving-oriented skis of this grouping, the K2 Mindbender 99 Ti is engaging, stable, and totally powerful. Hi I am looking for new skis this year. The mondo point size is the generic boot size that every boot maker uses it. The Ranger 98 Ti falls in between those to, although in my opinion it's a little closer to the M5. I'm trying to narrow down a choice for my 1 ski quiver, ripping both east and west coasts. Looking for something a little lighter and more directional than the Bacons that I can have fun on on less than stellar days, improve my trad skiing skills on (lessons on Bacons is kinda counter-productive) and still practice some switch and jumps (hoping to nail 180 and maybe 360 this season). SE. These skis seem super similar, anyone tried both and have any thoughts? Im in the market for a one ski quiver. Have you skied the Enforcer in the 193? 28.5). Talk to a Skier: href='/Chairlift-Chat/DPS-Phantom-2-Wax-System-Explanation'. Thinking about going a little bit wider with the next skis to get better off-piste performance. I'm definitely more of an aggressive skier (want a confidence inspiring ski when testing the speed limit), but also want something versatile and playful to hop and jump around on, as I'm always looking for natural features to hit. They're solid bindings. All my friends have the enforcer 100s. The Rangers (98 better on-trail, 102 more freeride) both have partial metal while the Kastle is built more like your Bonafide. I'm an expert skier, mainly off-piste on chopped up, powdery, rocky mountain double blacks and go into the backcountry a couple times every season. I'm a fairly advanced skier but not a ripper. The bad news, is that it can be a bit more difficult to do- but thats why were here. If you're looking to stay in the ~100 mm category and want a more friendly Enforcer, look to the Atomic Bent Chetler 100 or the Salomon QST 99. So, I was wondering which pair you would recommend considering that and the fact that I am not a fan of carving and I usually ski in Canada where the snow is often hard and pretty icy? So, while I like those two skis a lot, you already know you like the QST feel, and I'm not convinced you'd like either of those skis more. I'm really leaning towards the QST 99, Bent Chetler 100 or Enforcer 100 - I'm not sure how to decide between the group nor 100% certain on the length - I think i was on a 181 last week, but I think i'd also be comfortable on the 188. Youve made it to the next level in skiing. Looking at Mantra M5 in 184 or Kore 93 in 180cm. The longer tip rocker makes this ski a great floater, but since the taper is mostly early, and not too dramatic, it has a straighter feel to the initiation phase of the turn. Do you have a suggestion, including length for my size and weight? With a more forward mount (plus 2cm maybe) it becomes more playful and fun in the trees. Any recommendations as far as length would also be appreciated. Cheers from the Great White North. What do you think about those for my needs? I'm 5'9, 165 pounds, and I'm a predominantly east coast skier. It's got a great blend of materials that really give the skis a good amount of power and strength. Whats your advice? A lot of that has to do with the tail shape, which is more bulbous than most of the competition. What Skis Should I Buy: Comparing Men's 100mm All Mountain Skis - 2019 Edition. I am currently trying to decide on a pair of 100mm skis but I find it hard to decide between the blizzard rustler 10 and the nordica enforcer 100. Which ski do you recommend based on my description? We felt the 99 fits better with the "All-Mountain" moniker a bit better than the 102, which leans more to the "Freeride" side of the spectrum. The maneuverability of the Tracer 98 in the 180 cm length would be off the charts for you, and shouldn't feel too unstable. Here goes! Most of Volkls skis that adhere to the Mantra build could simply be referred to as such followed by the waist width. Overall, however, the Bonafide is still right up there among the stiffest, most powerful skis in this category. I guess it comes down to how often you're truly skiing in fresh snow, and for most people, it's not all that often. I'm really torn between the Bent Chetler 100 (180cm) and the Sick Day 104 (179 or 186cm) for a 50/50 one ski quiver mounted with Shifts to be used mostly in the French Alps. Youre that good at skiing. Rough and tumble skiers who love to be aggressive and get a lot of performance as well as playfulness out of their skis. I'm 6' and 200 and ski probably 60/40 on-piste vs. off-piste. It's stable, confidence inspiring and damp, but demanding and kind of punishing if you fuck around or get sloppy skiing it. I skied my Bent chetler 100's yesterday in the snowy woods, and I don't think there's a better ski out there for that application. They manage to eke out quite a bit of flotation and freeride acumen, however, and a lot of it comes down to the skis ability to flex and bend with a wide range of stiffness and power. Technical Specs . Hope that helps! More than just dads who ski. Both are supremely versatile, but the narrower one will give you a better chance at keeping up. I also have Rosi S7 that are 115 under foot. That said, from everything you've said, the Salomon QST 99 feels like a really good choice. Buy the skis for the conditions you do ski versus the conditions you want to ski. I'd look to those and see if something strikes you! If you're looking for a strong-carving ski in that 100mm range, I'd check out the Volkl Mantra 102 and the Nordica Enforcer 100. Thanks, I think the best thing to do here is to get a ski that blends the power and precision of the Mantra with a more playful, soft-snow oriented ski for your sidecountry and soft snow adventures. Size up for true power and strength. I found the M5, precise and easy to bend into shorter carving turns but lacking float due to the shallower rocker profiles. What do you think would be a good fit? From what Ive read on the two skis, the turning radius of the 177 Mantra is similar to the 185 Enforcer. This winter, I've spent ~20 days at Taos, and am now skiing 75% ungroomed terrain, mostly blacks and doubles, with about 50% of my time on moguls or ungroomed bump runs and 30% in the trees. Who it's For: Similar to the MX 99, you should be a relatively aggressive skier who is comfortable driving a ski. The ski's construction consists of bamboo, poplar, and carbon, which gives the Origin 96 one of the more explosive, energetic flex patterns out of the skis in this article. Fischer also uses a very thin tip construction by integrating carbon into the ski's construction. I'm about the same size as you, maybe a bit heavier, and I found those two models and sizes to be just about right. Not a particularly "fun" ski anywhere but a competent ski that didn't wear me out like the M5's (meh). Have fun! If the number you see has a decimal, then youre probably looking at your Mondo Point size which isnt accurate enough to use when mounting bindings. Hope that helps! The build is mostly the same, you're really getting a wider, more rockered, and more tapered ski with the 104, which takes it from the all-mountain zone and places it squarely in the freeride region. The QST is a great mix of performance and is on the lighter side, but it's still a fantastic all-mountain ski for any and all conditions. This is not a bad thing, and when you get to the underfoot region as well as the tail, it becomes apparent that the M-Pro likes to finish a turn in a very strong manner. Sale: $479.93. The Line Sick Day 104 is definitely more directional, and they ski a bit short for the stated length. 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