LARRY LIEBER: I would imagine it's a statement of some kind that you sign or you write. I also, you know, I also, in doing this, I had to use the sense of the visual. I used to get names out of the back of the dictionary, from the biographical section where you have foreign names, Russian, this and that. Q: What was your understanding of why or your impression of why Jack Kirby was upset when he tore these up and threw them in the trash? Stan, yes. Rachel (Lieber) Friedlender 01 Jan 1912 . Q: You can answer. Celia Lieber (born Solomon) was born in 1894, at birth place, to Zanfer Solomon and Sophia Solomon. So once again I was writing and drawing, and that I enjoyed even more than the Rawhide Kid. See templates for discussion to help reach a consensus. When I went there, Martin put out two kinds of books. There's an incredible amount of material here so what I'm going to do is break down and excerpt stuff that jumps out at me. For roughly a year and a half, he lived in the since-defunct Hotel Manhattan Towers, a residence hotel at Broadway and West 76th Street in Manhattan. LARRY LIEBER: Stan offered me I had to earn a living. He said, "Larry if you want, you can write The Hulk and draw it". LARRY LIEBER: Yes. I never had to, you know, go home and do it again. After the debut Iron Man story in Tales of Suspense #39 (March 1963), however, Lee replaced Lieber with Robert Bernstein, writing as "R. Berns", for the next seven issues before taking over the reins himself for a few stories before giving Don Rico, as "N. Korok", a two-issue stint. My only experience was in the color comics. Q: Who came up with the name Thor, the hero name? [18] I needed someone to write the new feature, which would hopefully be Marvel's fourth winner in our little superhero sweepstakes. LARRY LIEBER: I think I wrote the first the first script. From his 2010 deposition: 17 (break in testimony) LARRY LIEBER: Well, this must have been a Hulk story and I have the originals at home. Earlier today we reported that the heirs of artist Steve Ditko had . But a page of script would have panel one, panel two, panel three. Yes. The average comic book fan might not know Lieber has helped shaped Marvel as we know it today, co-creating . "[12] He again drew for his brother, editor Stan Lee, at the 1950s forerunner of Marvel Comics, known generally as Atlas Comics, though whether on staff or freelance is uncertain. LARRY LIEBER: Yes. He recalled in 1999 he had written some or all of these stories himself, "because I remember Stan was saying to me, 'You write romances really well. MR. TOBEROFF: Thank you. LARRY LIEBER: I I'm not certain. Q: And your brother is? Mother of: Stanley Martin Lieber, aka Stan Lee Lawrence D. "Larry" Lieber (B2610310R) Burial: 17 Dec 1947 NY, NY City Municipal Deaths (FamilySearch) Thank you, Shannon. They would have thought Stan Lee is sending over a spy or something you know. Usually, there were six panels on a page and I would describe the action in the first in the first panel. I don't recall anything until the book came out and I got a copy of it and saw. LARRY LIEBER: Yes. Widower of Private After that, after the Hulk, Stan left. Q: Okay. I know there were artists who work for other companies. Q: Do you know who, after you turned in the script, do you know who the artist was that drew Thor? Born in New York City in 1931, Lieber studied art at the Pratt Art Institute and the Art . [8], In a 2010 interview Lieber described how he collaborated with Lee on The Amazing Spider-Man strip: "I get a full script. It's vague. I didn't do enough of the superheroes to know whether I'd like them. The only, and this isn't interviewed, but, no, no, no, no, no. I used to go to it and gets parts of names to put together."[17]. Martin unfortunately put Jeff in charge of all the color comics and put me in charge of the black-and-white books. LARRY LIEBER: No. LARRY LIEBER: Yes. Q: Did you ever did you have any contact with the story after you turned it in and made whatever changes? Stanley Martin Lieber, aka Stan Lee Lawrence D. "Larry" Lieber NY Death Cert # 027187. Disney has counter-sued to protect their interests. I'm just objecting for the record. There were artists and writers who had worked I was almost the only one in the profession who couldn't work for another company, which, in this case, the most likely one would have been DC, because Stan was my brother. Q: Okay. Larry has also had a hand in co-creating some of our greatest Marvel super-heroes including Ant Man, Iron Man, and Thor. I know that at the time I wanted what's the expression? Regardless, his next confirmed credit is penciling and inking the three-page story "A World to Conquer" in Journey into Unknown Worlds #52 (Dec. 1956), followed by stories in such Atlas romance comics as Love Romances, Love Tales, Stories of Romance, True Tales of Love and The Romances of Nurse Helen Grant in issues cover-dated April to August 1957 and July 1958. Larry is also a co-creator of the Marvel Comics superheroes Iron Man, Thor, Ant-Man and was an artist for the Amazing . LARRY LIEBER: Panel by panel and description of it, yes. Q: And where would how would you get the idea for the story? Entertainment, Inc. 9440 Santa Monica Blvd. And I I saw it as an opportunity to have some of his originals to keep, to look at and study, and so I took them out of the trash can. LARRY LIEBER: I don't know, but I guess I I had been writing so many. How would he give that to you? Q: Okay. "I was drawing, but I was slow. I I wrote a few books, the first issue or the first couple issues, yes. I didn't want to hear something like that." This I happen to remember. He was very easy, he was showing me. It had been written, yeah, before me by Stan and Jack Kirby. [11] This included creating the names of their respective alter egos: Don Blake, Tony Stark, and Henry Pym. LARRY LIEBER: No. Now, I knew nothing about black-and-white comics, right? "[8], Atlas/Seaboard and return to Marvel[edit] In 1974, Lieber left Marvel to take on an editorship at Atlas/Seaboard Comics, the term that comic book historians and collectors use to refer to the "Atlas Comics" line published by Seaboard Periodicals, to differentiate it from the 1950s Marvel Comics predecessor Atlas Comics. Also I think it's even more dramatic than [the] Spider-Man [comic strip]". So he did. LARRY LIEBER: Okay. It didn't appeal to me. I don't remember when I first got them. [9] Lieber began working for Goodman as an art assistant on the magazine side, "doing paste-ups. While also teaching, Lieber wrote and drew stories about monsters, heroes, cowboys and love. Partners of Stan Lee. But I always wrote a script here. Stan said, 'I'm trying to make up a character,' and he gave me the plot, and he said, 'Why don't you write the story? [29][30] Lieber said Lee gave a rare compliment on the Hulk strip, telling his brother, "[I]t's very good. Solicited for comment, celebrity hairstylist Jose Eber said he "would have made it sexier.". I think he went out to Hollywood or out to California and that's when Jim Shooter came in [as Marvel editor-in-chief] and took over. IT GOT THREE . I didn't have any steady work then. I used to like to draw and copy them and so on. Stanley Martin Lieber, popularly known as Stan Lee, was an American comic book writer, editor, publisher, media producer, television host, actor, and voice actor. I was very young and I had a couple of jobs. Larry Lieber is an American comic book artist and writer best known as co-creator of the Marvel Comics superheroes Iron Man, Thor, and Ant-Man; for his long stint both writing and drawing the Marvel Western Rawhide Kid; and for illustrating the newspaper comic strip The Amazing Spider-Man from 1986 to September 2018. And at that Q: I'm sorry, the "he" in that was Stan Lee? I simply wouldn't have the time to continue with The Fantastic Four, The Hulk, Spider-Man and the other odd Western, mystery, romance, humor, and assorted monster tales I was writing and still do justice to our newest feature yet a'borning. LARRY LIEBER: You mean the in the story parts? I'm not certain whether it was at the same time they were working for Marvel. Didn't have to have six panels. See templates for discussion to help reach a consensus. I don't remember why I wanted to do it, particularly. [3] When he was six months old, the family moved to The Bronx,[4] settling into at 1720 University Avenue, which Lee described as a one-bedroom, "third-floor apartment facing out back", with him and Larry sharing a bedroom and his parents using a foldout couch. I'm sorry, what? [8], In 1980 and 1981, concurrent with the Hulk strip, Lieber contributed some degree of penciling on the daily and Sunday comic strip The Amazing Spider Man until Fred Kida took over as regular penciler. imported from Wikimedia project. But it didn't last too long and but I don't remember when these things were. Q: Did you ever work on did you ever get artwork that you would then write the dialogue for, or did you always write the script first? I remember in the early years seeing it. "[10] There Lieber began illustrating comic books; his first known credit is penciling and inking the four-page story crime comics story "Cop on the Beat", by an unknown writer, in All True Crime #44 (cover-dated May 1951). LARRY LIEBER: Yes. None whatsoever. Q: When is the first time you heard the phrase "work made for hire," if any? Larry Lieber. Can you tell me what did a script look like? According to Disney, Larry Lieber, the brother of late Marvel editor and publisher Stan Lee, and the heirs of the other artists served notices on the company indicating they were terminating Marvel Q: That's fine. Larry Lee - Brother. LARRY LIEBER: Yeah. And what what did he provide you with or what did he ask you to do? [20] For another series, starring the Human Torch from the Fantastic Four, Lieber co-created the longstanding supervillain the Wizard in Strange Tales #102 (Nov. Q: Have you ever submitted a, what we call a declaration or affidavit in connection with a lawsuit? He said, 'Oh, I've read your letters.'"[13]. "He would go over it and if it were in the early years, he might correct or change a line or two. both New York City and Indianapolis. Did you have any involvement in The Rawhide Kid? And where he would discuss a story or a plot with the artist and the artist would write it not write, I'm sorry. Larry Lieber (est. (break in testimony) Born Country: United States. [29], The Hulk was kind of popular on television, and so I drew The [Incredible] Hulk. I wanted to leave, so I left. Q: When was that? Lieber is best known for scripting the first appearances of the Marvel characters Iron Man, Thor and Ant-Man; for his long stint both writing and drawing the Marvel Western Rawhide Kid; and for illustrating the newspaper comic strip The Amazing Spider-Man for many years and continuing as of 2014. Q: If you look at the center of the page, you see a line going through the center of the first page, the third, fourth, fifth and sixth pages? He worked most of his life as a dress cutter in New York. And then there was maybe not there, but I know I maybe it was it was there and also in the New York Times they had an article about this case some time ago, and in the article they mentioned again what it was about. LARRY LIEBER: And once I tried, because I couldn't get work from Marvel and I sent some samples of my not original artwork because I didn't have it, but I sent some comic books over to DC through a friend of mine, Frank Giacoia, who had worked for them, they knew him. After the Great Depression, Jack had a hard time finding work, which made the family move from . For another series, starring the Human Torch from the Fantastic Four, Lieber co-created the longstanding supervillain the Wizard in Strange Tales #102 (Nov. 1962). No. I was unsure of myself just sitting down to write a script. MS. SINGER: Objection to form. He still gave me work, he didn't want to take work away, but they were putting out a few more books. After you wrote the first strike that. Q: Okay. Strange, Ant-Man, Hawkeye, Black Widow, Falcon, Thor and others. His first feature film was Thor: Ragnarok (2017). LARRY LIEBER: As far as I remember, it was you mean written. Lieber, by now living in the Tudor City apartment complex in Manhattan, began freelancing[14] regularly for the nascent Marvel Comics, "writing stories for Jack [Kirby] to draw",[12] referring to the artist who had co-created Captain America for the company in 1940 and had recently returned for a long, exclusive stint in which Kirby would co-create many signature Marvel characters in the Silver Age of Comics. Q: And is that where you did your freelance work? They could go from one to another, and some of the artists would actually play, you know, one company against another in the sense of saying, "Oh, I've been offered more money there," so if the art director wanted to keep him, he had to, you know, give him give him a little more. My Uru hammer, I created that. Martin Goodman the owner, was the referred-to cousin. LARRY LIEBER: Oh, I didn't I'm sorry. Larry Lieber Wiki: Salary, Married, Wedding, Spouse, Family Larry D. Lieber (born October 26, 1931) is an American comic book artist and writer, and the younger brother of Marvel Comics' writer, editor and publisher Stan Lee.Lieber is best known for scripting the first appearances of the Marvel characters Iron Man, Thor and Ant-Man; for his long stint both writing and drawing the Marvel . LARRY LIEBER: My understanding they were not obligated. But I don't yeah, yeah, Stan. We're going to focus today on the period from 1958 to 1965, so that's fine. LARRY LIEBER: No. 1930s - living) 0 references . I was working during the day and I went to [the Pratt Institute art school, in Brooklyn, in] the evening. I would see what they're doing and go back or whatever the hell it was. Ancestors. So I could never do that. LARRY LIEBER: Stan Lee. They tried somebody else and it didn't work out and they offered it to me and I started doing it and I've been doing it for 20 years now it'll be.[8]. LARRY LIEBER: No. Father of Jan Lee. Q: Fair enough. I don't remember the year, but I obtained them when they were discarded. As Lieber recalled, "I kind of liked it; it was short. I said, 'I'm not really a writer.' Yes, sure. Q: The "he" when you said "he"? LARRY LIEBER: Stan Lee. It didn't work out too well, and Jeff finally left angrily or something, and I had to take over all his books. Find Dr. Lieber's phone number, address, insurance information, hospital affiliations and more. Serving during the Korean War, he spent two of those years stationed at Okinawa,[4] after having done his boot-camp training at the since-defunct Sampson Air Force Base, near the Finger Lakes region of New York State. LARRY LIEBER is one of the more overlooked, underrated and as such forgotten men from the Silver Age of Marvel comics. '"[13] In 1958, following an economic downturn for the publisher and the firing of virtually all the comics staffers save Lee, "Stan said he wanted somebody to help him write, and he had nobody then; he was doing it all himself. No. [24], When Atlas went under, Lieber received six months severance pay and spent time trying to devise a newspaper comic strip for syndication. Suite 620 Beverly Hills, CA 90210-4608 USA: Hobbies: Writing stories: Lee was known for being Marvel Comics' lead creative leader for almost 21 years.. With his work alongside co-writer/artists Jack Kirby and Steve Ditko, he co-created many popular fictional characters, including superheroes Spider-Man, the X-Men, Iron Man, Thor . I made up a plot and I brought it in to the editor, and the editor thought it wasn't good enough and told me to go back and rewrite it, the plot, work on it some more, develop it. [22], With the end of his run on Rawhide Kid, Lieber found little further Marvel work. The award was presented July 25, 2008, during the 2008 Will Eisner Comic Industry Awards ceremony at Comic-Con International.[30]. The others are worse than me. Larry Lieber is the younger brother of Stan Lee. Yes. Larry Lieber was born in Manhattan, New York City, New York, the second child of Romanian Jewish immigrant parents Jack and Celia Lieber, and the brother of the nearly nine years older Stanley Martin Lieber, later best known as Marvel Comics editor and impresario Stan Lee. Later, in 1958 he was fortunate to have the opportunity to. And I thought "Henry" sounded like a scientist and "Pym" made it catching and different and exotic. Lieber is best known for scripting the first appearances of the Marvel characters Iron Man, Thor and Ant-Man; for his long stint both writing and drawing the Marvel Western . LARRY LIEBER: Stan. Lawrence D. Lieber[1] (/libr/; born October 26, 1931)[2] is an American comic book artist and writer best known as co-creator of the Marvel Comics superheroes Iron Man, Thor, and Ant-Man; for his long stint both writing and drawing the Marvel Western Rawhide Kid; and for illustrating the newspaper comic strip The Amazing Spider-Man from 1986 to September 2018. LARRY LIEBER: I wrote the first script for Iron Man also. Within the next few years, healong with help from Kirby, his brother Larry Lieber, and artist Steve Ditko . Q: Okay. Q: And did you pay for your own supplies, whatever they were? I didn't have any steady work then. He would give it written to me. Beginning in 1951, he spent four years in the Air Force during the Korean War era, two years in Okinawa, before pursuing his chosen field. As Lieber recalled of those creature features, Stan made up the plot, and then he'd give it to me, and I'd write the script. In the mid-seventies, he became editor of rival Atlas/Seaboard Comics, that briefly championed creator's rights. Lieber also wrote and penciled two Spider-Man stories, in Web of Spider-Man #21 and 25 (Dec. 1986, April 1987). Change this or change that.". And I also came up with his hammer. Son of Jack Aron Lieber and Celia Lieber He was 86 when he starred in this movie. After a while, I did better and I and I enjoyed it. I didn't think about it at all. Q: We don't have to worry about I'm focusing you, I'm sorry, I'm focusing you on the period 1958 to 1965. Q: And that artwork was also purchased by Q: And you were writing scripts? It depends. I I don't recall getting it at home. And he took the drawings, he had these drawings, he took them and he tore them in half and he threw them in a trash can, a large trash can. I'm sorry. Stan had his own way of writing and his own using as few words as possible, making them count, and he he was a good editor. Q: Do you recall LARRY LIEBER: Oh, no. Q: And the black marks on the left and right-hand margins Larry Lieber was born in Manhattan, New York City, the second child of Romanian-Jewish immigrant parents Celia (ne Solomon) and Jack Lieber, and the brother of Stanley Martin Lieber, later known as Marvel Comics editor and impresario Stan Lee. Do you know whether strike that. LARRY LIEBER: No. No. "I was drawing, but I was slow. Q: Now, during the period when Marvel was buying your work, did you submit any work, whether scripts or artwork, to any other publishers? Q: And you say, "They were full scripts and I didn't think of Jack when I wrote it at all. . LARRY LIEBER: No, not that I recall. LARRY LIEBER: You know, I don't remember. "I still wanted to be an artist and do comics, but I had in mind to eventually become an illustrator," he said in 1999. I'm sorry. I don't remember when I first got them. Other people know, and if I had the book, I could tell you. Right here at FameChain. I mean, what would you what would you turn in? Q: Do you know who the artist was who drew the first Iron Man? I used to Stan liked the way I made up names, civilian names, and I used to, from my years of doing these, what do you call it, these fantasy books, monster books, and I used to look at the back of dictionary, Miriam Webster had biographical names and geographical, so I would look in towns and if I liked the town, I might put it. You know, I don't remember. Would he [5] At "about ten-and-a-half", with his brother in the U.S. Army, Lieber and his parents returned to Manhattan, moving to the Washington Heights neighborhood. "[10] There Lieber began illustrating comic books; his first known credit is penciling and inking the four-page crime comics story "Cop on the Beat", by an unknown writer, in All True Crime #44 (cover-dated May 1951). He said, 'Oh, I've read your letters.'"[13]. Born 28 Dec 1922 in New York City, New York, USA. Lieber is now 89 years old and worked on the earliest comics versions of Thor, Iron Man, and . The award was presented July 25, 2008, during the 2008 Will Eisner Comic Industry Awards ceremony at Comic-Con International. I made up stories that I really liked and it lasted a little while. MS. SINGER: Objection. I didn't, you know, and I didn't know what it was. Right here at FameChain. June, the end of June. LARRY LIEBER: Yeah, that's where it was ripped and I have tape on them. Family: Father- Jack Lieber Mother- Celia Lieber Brother- Larry Lieber Sister- Not Known: Religion: Judaism: Ethnicity/Race: Jewish: Address (Fan Mail) Pow! And again, I made up the civilian name. Husband of Joan (Boocock) Lee married 5 Dec 1947 in Reno, Nevada, United States. LARRY LIEBER: No, they all came from Stan Lee. [22] Lieber wrote the first nine Ant-Man stories (following the character's non-costumed introduction months earlier) in Tales to Astonish #35-43 (Sept. 1962 - May 1963) before veteran Ernie Hart did five issues, followed by Lee taking over. I I've been looking at the books and it seems with a few of them I did. [26][27] With co-scripter Gary Friedrich primarily, Lieber wrote the hero's seven-page lead feature in the weekly Captain Britain #24-37 (March 23 - June 22, 1977),[28] and, with co-writer Jim Lawrence, Captain Britain adventures in Marvel UK's Super Spider-Man #233-246 (July 27-Oct. 26, 1977). At this point in the late 1950s, Kirby was drawing science fiction / fantasy stories followed by giant-monster tales in what collectors and historians call "pre-superhero Marvel" comics, primarily Journey into Mystery, Strange Tales, Tales of Suspense and Tales to Astonish. Q: Do you know what Milly's last name was? Frank Lieber (Lieber family) Frank Lieber served as president of the District 108 School Board in Highland Park during the 1970s, and raised funds for Highland . Q: And was it your understanding that the import of the writing on the back of these checks was that by signing the check and accepting payment for your work, you were transferring over to Marvel all rights in your work? MR. TOBEROFF: Assumes facts. From 1974 to 1975, he was editor of Atlas/Seaboard Comics. Larry Lieber is Stan Lee's younger brother and wrote Marvel books in the sixties such as Iron Man, Thor and Rawhide Kid. Q: Do you see that line? Dr. Lawrence Lieber, MD is an Orthopedic Surgery Specialist in Downers Grove, IL and has over 42 years of experience in the medical field. Assumes facts. He is the younger brother of Marvel Comics ' writer, editor, and publisher Stan Lee . (break in testimony) At that time it was called Timely Comics and he owned it, Martin Goodman. The content of this story seems to correspond with "To Clone a Hulk," the fan-generated title for the storyline which ran from October 30 to December 18, 1978 according to the . LARRY LIEBER: I didn't know. Jury finds Harvard professor Charles Lieber guilty of hiding ties to China Charles Lieber, the former chair of Harvard's chemistry department, has been convicted of lying to the university and the . I didn't think about it at all. "[12] He again drew for his brother, editor Stan Lee, at the 1950s forerunner of Marvel Comics, known generally as Atlas Comics, though whether on staff or freelance is uncertain. Jacob was born on September 15 1886, in Botosani, Romania. Or else I I either brought it to the office and handed it to Stan, who must have sent it, or else I sent it. LARRY LIEBER: Yes. LARRY LIEBER: and I made it up." Date of Birth: August 15, 1885. When he was six months old, the family moved to The Bronx, settling at 1720 University Avenue, which Lee . [3] When he was six months old, the family moved to The Bronx,[4] settling at 1720 University Avenue, which Lee described as a one-bedroom, "third-floor apartment facing out back", with him and Larry sharing a bedroom and his parents using a foldout couch. Q: Moving to a different subject, you testified earlier that it was your recollection that there were legends on the back of checks you received from Marvel for your freelance work? 1962). He still gave me work, he didn't want to take work away, but they were putting out a few more books. And the script that you wrote for Iron Man, was that a full script with the panel breakdown? "[23] He considered seeking work at rival DC Comics, as some other Marvel writers and artists did, but found, "I was the only one who could never do that because that was the price for Stan being my brother. Lee then took over as regular writer for the next few years. He is a writer, known for Iron Man (2008), Ant-Man (2015) and Avengers: Endgame (2019). 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